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Window Crank Problem

Postby Jims65cyclone » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:05 pm

Came home from a cruise-in, pulled into the garage, started to roll up the driver's side window and there was a pop, and the window crank just twirls around with no resistance. I want to get some thoughts from you guys before I start the autopsy.
1) What's involved in getting the crank handle off so I can remove the door panel? Does it have a wire clip, stamped metal clip, etc.? What do I need to remove it? Special tool or something I may already have?
2) Any theories on what went wrong? What am I likely to face when I get in there?
3) Good source(s) for parts if it's not something simple I can fab myself?
Thanks guys.
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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby Lou's Comet » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:34 pm

Jims65cyclone wrote:Came home from a cruise-in, pulled into the garage, started to roll up the driver's side window and there was a pop, and the window crank just twirls around with no resistance. I want to get some thoughts from you guys before I start the autopsy.
1) What's involved in getting the crank handle off so I can remove the door panel? Does it have a wire clip, stamped metal clip, etc.? What do I need to remove it? Special tool or something I may already have?
2) Any theories on what went wrong? What am I likely to face when I get in there?
3) Good source(s) for parts if it's not something simple I can fab myself?
Thanks guys.
Jim


Should have a clip on the backside of the handle like this.

http://www.falconparts.com/ford-falcon- ... 164p56.htm

You can usually get them off with a small hook type tool, or you can get the tool for removing them from HF or most auto parts stores. Here is link to the tool.

http://www.falconparts.com/ford-falcon- ... 64p956.htm

Hard to tell what went without taking panel off and seeing. But if I was to guess I would say one of the rollers broke/wore out and popped out of the track. Here is a link for replacement rollers

http://www.drakeautomotivegroup.com/Sto ... px?wid=141

But again won't know for sure until you get the panel off.

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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby A/FX » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:19 pm

Your problem could be the plastic bushings, I have found that in time they seize to the shaft and then drag along the channel. This could make them break especially after 50+ years the plastic gets brittle. Another problem could be the spring that counter balances the window, this is a flat wound spring that is part of the regulator.
If you need a replacement regulator I might have one in my extra parts.(if "64 regulators are the same as '65)
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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby comethead » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:05 pm

Jim whatever's broke in there can be replaced with 65 Mustang parts (minus the actual regulator I believe).
It's a good time to do a thorough inspection and some preventative maintenance like lubricating things etc.
Driver side is always gonna wear out more than passenger side so you have some time before you'll need to get into that side.
Also, be very careful as you pop out the door panel clips. It doesn't take much to break out the cardboard backing.

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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby lavron » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:54 pm

Jims65cyclone wrote:1) What's involved in getting the crank handle off so I can remove the door panel? Does it have a wire clip, stamped metal clip, etc.? What do I need to remove it? Special tool or something I may already have?


I have the tool like Lou is talking about but I have heard you can use a rag to get the clip out by slipping it between the panel and the handle and pulling back and forth until you snag the clip and pop it loose. I believe the two clip legs face the crank arm.

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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby Jims65cyclone » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:03 pm

I spent some time on YouTube after my initial post, and learned a lot. I saw the rag technique to remove the pin and tried it, but couldn't get it to work. Then I discovered my son-in-law has the tool made to remove the pin, so I'll borrow it from him. Another YouTube video showed the removal of the regulator from the driver's door on a 65 Mustang. That one had some missing teeth on the regulator. I'm wondering if that may be my problem since there was a pop, and then the crank seems to just turn without engaging anything. They bought a complete repop regulator assembly from NPD, so I know it's available for a Mustang, but don't know if it's the same as a 65 Comet. I just need to borrow that tool and get the handle off so I can remove the panel and see what's wrong. I bookmarked the videos so I can go back and watch them again before taking the guts apart. I'll give you guys an update when I tear into it. Thanks for your advice.
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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby lavron » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:43 pm

Jims65cyclone wrote:so I know it's available for a Mustang, but don't know if it's the same as a 65 Comet


I am going to make a guess it is a very universal, common Ford part and shouldn't have any problem finding a replacement. That is what I predict. :roll:

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Re: Window Crank Problem

Postby comethead » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:00 pm

Falconparts has some parts to repair or replace the regulators or crank handles
http://www.falconparts.com/ford-falcon- ... s-c135.htm
I use this type of tool to remove the handle clip
http://www.falconparts.com/ford-falcon- ... 64p956.htm

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