Hi guys, sorry, I know I asked a similar question about upgrading from single to a dual master. I have decided to also upgrade the front to disc. My question is, those of you who have upgraded to front disc without a power booster, was the difference great enough to not need a booster?
Thanks,
Bob
Power or manual master?
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Re: Power or manual master?
Manual brakes work just fine, especially if you aren't pushing the car too hard.
There is barely enough room to fit and service a manual dual reservoir MC, much less a power booster.
I do a lot of braking w/ the engine.
Joe
There is barely enough room to fit and service a manual dual reservoir MC, much less a power booster.
I do a lot of braking w/ the engine.
Joe
Re: Power or manual master?
I agree with Joe.
There is little extra room between the firewall and LH shock tower for a booster, the factory placed a dimple in the shock tower on ‘64’s but it was still a very tight fit. I actually see no reason for having a power booster, if the brakes are set up correctly they should stop the car with no issues although the pedal, pressure is going to be more than you might be familiar with in newer vehicles.
In the past I had ‘70 Mustang disc brakes up front, and ‘57 drum brakes in the rear with no booster, the car stopped with not issues. I now have Baer disc brakes at all four corners without boost and the car stops very well with no real pedal effort.
If you really want power brakes adding a bell crank system that was used on late ‘60’s Fairlanes to off set the master cylinder may work but it is not a bolt in, fabrication will be necessary. I used that part to install power brakes on an early Bronco so my wife could drive it and be able to stop easily.
There is little extra room between the firewall and LH shock tower for a booster, the factory placed a dimple in the shock tower on ‘64’s but it was still a very tight fit. I actually see no reason for having a power booster, if the brakes are set up correctly they should stop the car with no issues although the pedal, pressure is going to be more than you might be familiar with in newer vehicles.
In the past I had ‘70 Mustang disc brakes up front, and ‘57 drum brakes in the rear with no booster, the car stopped with not issues. I now have Baer disc brakes at all four corners without boost and the car stops very well with no real pedal effort.
If you really want power brakes adding a bell crank system that was used on late ‘60’s Fairlanes to off set the master cylinder may work but it is not a bolt in, fabrication will be necessary. I used that part to install power brakes on an early Bronco so my wife could drive it and be able to stop easily.
Re: Power or manual master?
I'm singing with the choir.
But it does take getting used to.
A 15/16ths inch master and an adjustable proportioning valve.
But it does take getting used to.
A 15/16ths inch master and an adjustable proportioning valve.
Re: Power or manual master?
Yea not really needed. More trouble than it's worth. under normal driving conditions manual discs feels almost same as power brakes & only a little more leg power is needed for quick stops & after you get use to it you wont even notice it.
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Re: Power or manual master?
Thanks guys for your help. Can someone recommend a dual master without boost for front disc and rear drums? Or will a dual manual used for all drums work the same way?
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Re: Power or manual master?
OK, 15/16" rather than a 1" bore for less pedal effort.
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Re: Power or manual master?
Is there a go-to master cylinder Comet guys choose to go dual reservoir?
One that's 15/16" bore, direct mount and with the correct size female line fittings?
One that's 15/16" bore, direct mount and with the correct size female line fittings?