Disc Brake Conversion
Disc Brake Conversion
I intend to convert from drum to disc brakes. Question is: should I convert both front and rear or just the front? I will install a dual reservoir master cylinder regardless. I want better braking capability but given that I don't drive this car in high levels of traffic, perhaps the front conversion will suffice. I will appreciate receiving any observations and recommendations. Thank you.
Jerry
Jerry
Jerry
1965 Caliente 302 T5
1965 Caliente 302 T5
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Disc brakes are not necessary on the rear but you will need a specific master cylinder for which ever combo you choose.
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Fronts only and well maintained rear drums will have her stopping great! Good luck
Joe
Joe
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
I used a master good for both front and rear disc, you can use it with rear drum which is what I'm doing but you need to put a 10psi residual pressure
valve in the feed line to rear drums. It keeps the rears from backing out to return spring pressure so you don't have long pedal travel, down the road decide to go rear disc just remove the residual valve.
valve in the feed line to rear drums. It keeps the rears from backing out to return spring pressure so you don't have long pedal travel, down the road decide to go rear disc just remove the residual valve.
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Thanks for the comments about disc brake conversion. I will go with front only.
Jerry
1965 Caliente 302 T5
1965 Caliente 302 T5
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Plumbing in a 2lb residual check valve to the front discs might also help to obtain a firm pedal. I would also recommend installing an adjustable proportioning valve, it will allow you to adjust the balance between the front and rear brakes especially if you are using different size tires at each end. Some companies recommend a non adjustable combination valve, in my experience they are not a “one size fits all” and are not the answer. If you plan to use a factory front disc set up from another FoMoCo vehicle plan on using the corresponding master cylinder. F150 and Maverick manual disc/drum masters are popular.
Jim
Jim
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Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Jim and Jerry,
Tell me about these 2lb front and 10lb rear residual check valves. As they’re different lb ratings, are they compatible with each other? Is the 2lb front and 10lb rear the way to go? What size of a contraption are they? Where do you get them? And where do you install them? I installed a Chockostang original equipment front disc brake kit the winter before last. I like the results, but, from my sports car racing experience, I like a higher and firmer brake pedal. Can I assume that these valves will accomplish this?
Tell me about these 2lb front and 10lb rear residual check valves. As they’re different lb ratings, are they compatible with each other? Is the 2lb front and 10lb rear the way to go? What size of a contraption are they? Where do you get them? And where do you install them? I installed a Chockostang original equipment front disc brake kit the winter before last. I like the results, but, from my sports car racing experience, I like a higher and firmer brake pedal. Can I assume that these valves will accomplish this?
Jack Bartelt
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
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Re: Disc Brake Conversion
Jim and Minion,
Tell me about these 2lb front and 10lb rear residual check valves. As they’re different lb ratings, are they compatible with each other? Is the 2lb front and 10lb rear the way to go? What size of a contraption are they? Where do you get them? And where do you install them? I installed a Chockostang original equipment front disc brake kit the winter before last. I like the results, but, from my sports car racing experience, I like a higher and firmer brake pedal. Can I assume that these valves will accomplish this?
Tell me about these 2lb front and 10lb rear residual check valves. As they’re different lb ratings, are they compatible with each other? Is the 2lb front and 10lb rear the way to go? What size of a contraption are they? Where do you get them? And where do you install them? I installed a Chockostang original equipment front disc brake kit the winter before last. I like the results, but, from my sports car racing experience, I like a higher and firmer brake pedal. Can I assume that these valves will accomplish this?
Jack Bartelt
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
I bought a front disc brake setup from Dan as well, installed on my daughter’s 66. Put the adjustable proportion valve on it, I did buy the two residual check valves from Summit but haven’t installed them yet. Here’s what I bought; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hli-315217 there’s an explanation on the function in the link as well.
They plum in line with your brakes, red (10lb) rear, blue (2lb) front, where you put them is up to you, but I would think the front one close to the MC, and the rear brake line before it splits. I’m thinking it’s more important for the rear then the front to have one. Our 66 has manual brakes, it takes some getting used to from driving our newer cars.
They plum in line with your brakes, red (10lb) rear, blue (2lb) front, where you put them is up to you, but I would think the front one close to the MC, and the rear brake line before it splits. I’m thinking it’s more important for the rear then the front to have one. Our 66 has manual brakes, it takes some getting used to from driving our newer cars.
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Lee,
Kit ordered……..Thank you!
Kit ordered……..Thank you!
Jack Bartelt
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
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Jack, please let us know how they work out for you. I haven’t installed ours yet because the brakes feel and stop pretty good, does take a bit more pressure for hard stops. I was going to plum the rear check valve at the junction box where the brake lines split, also thought about possibly putting it closer to the front junction box splitter
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Lee,
Will do. You’ll have to wait a few months though. My plans are to install the valves over the coming winter.
Will do. You’ll have to wait a few months though. My plans are to install the valves over the coming winter.
Jack Bartelt
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
1965 Comet Caliente Convertible
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
I might have mine installed within the next couple months, car is in my workshop working on the body for paint, and will be re-doing the front suspension while I’m at it. All the best with your build.
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
A higher pedal can be gotten with an adjustable pedal push rod like this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Manu ... 632-2357-0Racersonly wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:46 pmI like the results, but, from my sports car racing experience, I like a higher and firmer brake pedal.
For firmer I believe you can experiment with different sized MC piston diameters and wheel cylinder sizes.
On my Falcon I’m running a 1’ bore MC and rear 1” wheel cylinders with front Lincoln style calipers and the pedal is pretty firm.
Joe
Re: Disc Brake Conversion
If the Master Cylinder is higher than the calipers or wheel cylinders, what is the purpose of the residual valves?